Follow Jesus Down the Mount of Olives. Having been in the chair myself being prayed over for one of my sons, I can tell you that it’s very moving to feel the outpouring of prayers for my loved one. They COULD repent on behalf of the church and we still can today. We are in training for the great tribulation, but more than sixty percent of the Body of Christ across the world has already entered into the tribulation. The posture of others gathered around in prayer and the person standing in proxy of kneeling or sitting in a receptive posture help us pray with more focus. PJ, They couldn’t repent for the nation of Israel under the Old Covenant either. Secondly, there is no such thing as repentance “by proxy.”. Under the new covenant we can no more repent for a nation then we can each other. You hear many pastors, teachers, intercessors, etc. Providence. If you’re using prayer by proxy for someone’s physical healing, the person, though not physically present, typically wants and accepts the prayers on their behalf. I can’t speak to what goes on in the spiritual realm, but I can speak to the elements that tend to heighten the feeling of God’s presence. Sin is personal. Praying about Tragedy? Personal Prayer Power emphasizes interactive prayer, including how to find an answer to every prayer and how prayer shapes your future. First and foremost is the power of praying together with others in agreement. I will note that he did not experience a miraculous turnaround at the very moment we were praying. People observing the National Day of Prayer on Thursday at Meetinghouse Park prayed at seven stations set up to represent seven centers of power in America: Government, church, military, family, education, media and business…. It is loaded with symbolism but void of content. However, over time and with continued prayer, things slowly changed. Introduction It has been rightly said, “the secret of all failure is our failure in secret prayer.” Not just our failure to pray, but our failure in prayer. Herescope and Anton Bosch offer some excellent thoughts on the topic…. Great Prayers of the Bible 3 GREAT PRAYERS OF THE BIBLE An Outlined Study of Prayers in the Old and New Testaments INTRODUCTION A. Definitions. James 5:14, 15" (Christian Temperance and Bible Hygiene, 113-114). - by Arthur Pink, Apostasy Watch: What We Believe About Israel By Steve Lumbley, The People of God, the Land of Israel, and the Impartiality of the Gospel, "It is time to speak out because Christian Zionism has become a formidable and dangerous movement. So, no prayer of repentance is worth anything unless it is accompanied by actions. ~, "I feel I have a divine mandate to go and tell the people of this world that it is possible to be strong in the Lord Jesus Christ. You can repent on behalf of your family as much as you like, but until they individually and personally repent, nothing is going to happen. 2 Chronicles 30:17. As an example, at a small prayer group at church where we know each other well, on occasion one of the women with a family member in deep distress might sit in a chair as we lay hands on her and pray for that child. While not all Christian Zionists endorse the apocalyptic views of Hal Lindsey and Tim LaHaye, the movement as a whole is nevertheless leading the West, and the church with it, into a confrontation with Islam. We cannot repent on behalf of our family, a church, and least of all, a nation. By portraying the modern state of Israel as God's chosen people on earth, the role of the church has been reduced in the eyes of many to providing moral and biblical justification for Israel's colonization of Palestine. The custom of leaving the appointment of the proxy to the parent of the infant or two the baptizing priest tends to make sponsorship doubtful and is to be reprobated. Pray is the #1 App for Daily Prayer, Bible Stories, Bible Sleep Stories, and Christian Meditation. Every day millions of prayers ascend to God in which people pray prayers of repentance. Prudence. One could argue that Israel sinned as a nation when they refused to cross the Jordan (Numbers 14), yet the two individuals that did not agree with the majority were saved and entered the Land. This means you cannot repent on behalf of other people, whether living or dead. Thus, even in the Old Testament, God’s dealings were on an individual basis. ", John Hagee: “Iceland’s volcano eruption resulted from Britain’s advertising standards”, Superstition – The Fruit of Christian Zionism, American Apocalypse – the rise of Christian evangelicals, Kim Davis Should Render to Caesar What Is Caesar’s, How Christians Are Being “Set Up” And Deceived, By The False Church, and Unbelieving Jewish Leaders, Why Evangelicals and Catholics Cannot be “Together”, REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE COURTS TELEVANGELISTS, John Hagee: False Prophet (and the antidote), Congressman Bob Brady sips from Pope Francis’s discarded glass of water, Signs and Wonders and “the Signs of the Apostle”. Explore this and other forms of prayer through the Pray Deep prayer journals.Each book will lead you through a variety of prayer methods through 21 days of focused prayers. But the way this national prayer thing is being done, it is close to being an abomination before the Lord. Your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven. (see Leviticus 16: 7 -10, 20-22)  In this ritual, Aaron, the High Priest, laid hands on the scapegoat  and confessed the sins of Israel and then drove the goat out into the wilderness to symbolize the sins of the  people being removed. In this video-based Bible study, Chrystal teaches us the basic tenets of prayer practice and establishes a realistic and doable pattern of prayer to be applied to our daily life for 28 days with lasting effect. Q5: As much as I’d like to, can I repent of the unbiblical nationalistic idolatry on behalf of my American evangelical brothers and sisters? Q2: Does 2 Chr. As the International Standard Bible Encyclopedia puts it, “Christian prayer in its full New Testament meaning is prayer addressed to God as Father, in the name of Christ as Mediator, and through the enabling grace of the indwelling Spirit” (“Prayer” by J. C. Lambert). Prayer is not a mysterious practice reserved only for clergy and the religiously devout. What a mess of a belief system. Q3: Were the First Century Christians (mostly Jewish believers) Zionists, defending the land of Israel against foreign invaders? Isaiah said: “Let the wicked forsake his way, And the unrighteous man his thoughts; Let him return to the Lord, And He will have mercy on him; And to our God, For He will abundantly pardon” (Isaiah 55:7). Also, while appearing to depend upon God, once again we are dependent upon ourselves for our saving grace. Therefore, I think we can say that prayer by proxy is not a legally binding process where  we have complete authority to act on the behalf of someone as a prayerful stand-in, especially in situations where they need deliverance and salvation. The Get Back to Prayer Meeting Campaign; Gospel Light Society International and GLM Omnimedia Group LLC have a network of over 1,000 Christian news sites which contain the preaching of the Gospel and Christian discipleship teaching in every country of the world and in every major city of the world. …repentance is something that needs to be done, rather than prayed. Q4: Speaking of repentance, is there sufficient public knowledge of John Hagee’s repentance of the public act of divorcing his first wife to marry his secretary? The word itself means a change of mind and of direction. Praying on Mardi Gras or Fat Tuesday? In priests service. Last year i tried to explain this biblical principle in a number of posts (and comments), but could not seem to get through to a few folks. What Does That Mean? I had gone to God with great pain and prayed for this Nation of people. Q1: Is America analogous to Israel, making 2 Chr. let him call for the elders of the church, and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord; and the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up.' Every day millions of prayers ascend to God in which people pray prayers of repentance. Travailing in Prayer for Yourself and Others, How to Start a Prayer Group for Mutual Support and Care. A reader recently asked me about prayer by proxy where someone sits in for a person who is not present while others pray and lay hands on the person acting as the proxy. in the place of someone else that is being prayed for. I know it is for me. Then it will be forwarded to the appropriate chairman. It’s extremely comforting and empowering to those of us participating in the prayer. And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. In the story of the Pharisee and the publican the Pharisee is one who prayed long and often, but he was a miserable failure. For where two or three come together in my name, there am I with you .”  (NIV). What Does the Bible Say About Prayer? Discover the power of prayer withour topical prayers meant to meet your need! “It’s like sticking your finger in the eye of God.”. We are next. More importantly, this divine proxy system only works if individuals who need to be forgiven and need to connect to God make their own decision to personally accept the work of the proxy on their behalf. You might encounter this prayer practice in churches and in other Christian prayer groups, especially during times when strong prayers are needed for someone’s deliverance or healing. And the list goes on. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. Proxy. Change ), You are commenting using your Facebook account. It may have been this one: John Hagee: “Iceland’s volcano eruption resulted from Britain’s advertising standards”. In my personal experience with prayer by proxy I have felt God’s presence and power in a very real way. The answer to all of the above is the same. Since I’m not a theologian, I will leave it to others with more depth of knowledge to fully explore the Biblical and traditional roots of prayer by proxy. There seems to be another idea which goes along with the idea of corporate repentance which Bosch is debunking here. ... CBN News app to ensure you keep receiving news from a Christian ... for Prayer: (800) 823-6053. The really good news to this, is that God always knew something we did not… a small remnant of people were set aside for Himself. ~  Zion's Christian Soldiers, Teaching Sound Doctrine & Glorifying Christ. He “sensed” there were people with divisions in their families and “broke off curses over families”. I’m having a hard time figuring out what Scripture passages Hagee and others might base this idea on, regarding nations in this present New Covenant age. There is no way to escape it. . Proxy. We didn’t do this thinking, “We need to do prayer by proxy.”  We didn’t even have a name for it. Change ), You are commenting using your Google account. My friend and I are planning to bite the bullet and attend a CUFI “Stand With Israel” event next Tuesday night in north Minneapolis, just to see what takes place at these rallies. I do not feel special as I say this, rather it does give me Joy knowing that if our hearts are fixed on Him, He is Faithful to Save. Those who oppose her are demonized. 20. I really don’t know how they come to such conclusions. Posture helps us communicate with our whole being body, mind and spirit. The short answer is no – there are a bunch of problems with this notion. It has become customary to speak of prayers of “national repentance”. The lack of understanding regarding the New Covenant has to be one of the most grievous things we are witnessing today in the professing church. I’m quite sure they’re not looking to any texts in the New Testament. Just been reading a document about the erroneous teaching that logos and rhema have two different meanings as taught by John Hagee, quite an eye opener for me after having believed logos is the written word and rhema the prophetic spoken word. (See 2 Corinthians 5:21). The real Godparent must give a mandate directly or indirectly (through the agency of others but with his or her consent) to the proxy. Sorry, your blog cannot share posts by email. I remember reading in one of your posts not too long ago where John Hagee claimed that England had broken “their covenant” with God by not standing with Israel. Resources: Choose a daily Bible reading plan and use the day’s reading for your prayers. Please note that in these Biblical instances, these proxies were determined by God. My reader described the prayer mode she wanted to know more about as the practice of having someone sit, kneel, etc. Matthew 6:9-13 Pray then like this: “Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name. The ‘Church’, which is not always representing the “Church”, made up of a huge group of people, who tend to do ‘good deeds’, or make an appearance in front of an audience to do these ‘good deeds’, so that they will seem ‘good’ is rather biblical. If you have further questions about prayer by proxy, I’d advise anyone to speak with their clergyperson or research the teachings of their denomination on this subject. Instead we did it as a natural way to pray given the circumstances. modern nations today (especially with those that are perceived to have once been “a Christian nation”). If I try to analyze a bit of what I experienced, I felt like God was filling me (the person standing in) with new power and encouragement and insights into how to stay in relationship with my son in healthy ways. `Is any sick among you? On the other hand, in my own personal prayer experiences, I have found that actually being present with someone as you pray for their healing adds extra benefits for the ill person. Absolutely! Those who oppose her are demonized. Member Who Will Bring Your Proxy This information will be sent only to the email of the church office secretary and the person bringing your proxy. Often praying is part of a worship experience, either at church or privately. I also felt that the intercessors around me were able to speak out in prayer more specifically about the person who was not present. Ezra drew a crowd when he prayed publicly in anguish at Israel's lack of dedication to God (Ezra 10:1), but didn't suffer rebuke from the people or from God for his public prayer. Adam, when you figure it out let me know . Notable prayers. The word "proxy" means "the authority to act or stand in place of another." Change ), You are commenting using your Twitter account.