And I said, `Who?' We urge everyone to write your MP (if Canadian) or the Attorney General of Canada (if not) urging them to support MP Andrews and his bill as it moves toward a vote in the near future. Thought that maybe he had found somebody that he could really be happy with. The 10th Anniversary Blu-Ray and DVD are also available from other retailers listed below, and the digital edition is now available for purchase or rent on iTunes, Amazon Prime Video, and Google Play. A security guard reported hearing a. Mr. SHEARS: When we woke up in the morning, realized they weren't there. granddad? Turner, the daughter of a U.S. serviceman and a woman from St. Anthony, met Andrew while they were attending medical school at Memorial University in St. Johns. (Photo of Andrew; cell phone towers; photo of Shirley; maps; suburban street; photo of house; newspaper clipping; photo of Shirley; maps; cell phone tower; Shirley in court; court documents; flashing police lights; American flag. `You gave me a lovely son, and now it's over.'. hoped Shirley Turner would be returned to the US to face a murder trial. because it's hard to get off Newfoundland. MORRISON: In Kurt Kuenne's documentary, Clark Simpson, one of Andrew's close friends at the hospital, remembers that November morning just two weeks later when Shirley surprised Andrew again. Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) It's either in my closet or my bedroom. Turner - the son of Andrew Bagby whom she gave birth to after Bagby's death. MORRISON: And tell me about your mum with Zachary. At least he might have asleep when she went in. Kurt is incredibly grateful for the good folks at MSNBC for making this arrangement happen. Dear Zachary has been acquired for theatrical release and DVD distribution by the newly formed Oscilloscope Pictures, and will be released in New York on October 31st, and in Los Angeles and Chicago on November 7th. We just want as many people as possible to know this story, the documentary, for the practical reasons in my fantasies, I suppose some judge, some place, actually gets it and denies bail to somebody who could kill again, said David. I got to go to the trial. Andrew was found dead Nov. 5, 2001 in a state park just outside Latrobe, PA, where he was a resident in the local hospitals family medicine programme. No less than seven of those friends had asked Bagby to be the best man at their weddings. Couldn't be her. It was all incorrect from the beginning, that all this, innocence and everything she's told you was a lie. May 16, 2008: Mr. BAGBY: Shirley killed Andrew. This is how Kuenne represents his emotion at hearing the news that the woman who killed his friend had also killed his friends son. Right, right. her. How do you represent anguish of that magnitude without turning it into a Greek tragedy? I kind of need to move on from that because, like I. said, I'm a Bagby male. I, Mr. BAGBY: (Audio recording) Look, we will do what is best for Zachary. The Bagbys went to the morgue to identify their bodies. He'd been shot five times, including once in the back of the head, execution style. MORRISON: Two weeks after Andrew's murder, cell phone records, would show that Shirley Turner drove all the way from Iowa to Andrew's, neighborhood in Pennsylvania, arrived there the day of the murder, and then, she, or at least her cell phone, returned to Iowa. I had a job I loved. https://www.saltwire.com//california-couple-want-as-many-/ saltwire.com California couple want as many people as possible to know their story | SaltWire ', Mr. SIMPSON: And I told him, I said, `You know, Andrew, when I break up with somebody and put them on a plane and send them 1300 miles away,' I said, `They knock on my front door, I'm going out the back door and I'm calling the police.' David remembers uttering, "It's really him," and recalls how the two cried over the body, tears falling on to Andrew's face. Dear Zachary was also a hit at Silverdocs, the AFI/Discovery Channel Documentary Film Festival over the weekend of June 21st & 22nd, where both screenings were once again met with standing ovations; Silverdocs nominated Dear Zachary for its inaugural Writers Guild of America Documentary Screenplay Award. prayed that his murderer, whoever it was, would be swiftly brought to justice. Dear Zachary is now available on DVD! They did their best to keep their dark feelings about their son's accused. You can't tell them this over the phone. MORRISON: But then she claimed she couldn't find it. He travelled across the country, and to England, to collect these reminiscences, which reveal Bagby to be a caring physician and a beloved and charismatic goofball. Without access, without favor, without discretion, and without interference. MORRISON: Coming up, Andrew dead. Hello. Turner shot Bagby two days after he broke up with her at a Pennsylvania airport as she was set to fly back to Iowa. What kind of headfuck must that be? KATE: On Sunday night I got out of bed and prayed because I thought Andrew was at risk. Through a complicated series of delayed hearings and granted bails, Turner remained free for many months while the decision regarding her extradition was in process. Mr. SHEARS: I can remember being really upset and pissed off about that, happening because I had--I had friends here, and I had no time to tell anybody, basically why. December 4, 2008: He says his mother was so often, unavailable, especially from the time she started medical school. MORRISON: Even more, the Bagbys' gloom was mixed with worry. Mr. SHEARS: It seemed like it to me, yeah. Bill C-464 when enacted will justify detention in custody for a person accused of a serious crime who is a potential danger to their own minor children. We need each other, have each other to get through this, added David. MORRISON: It was almost two years after Andrew Bagby's murder, when Shirley Turner's eldest son T.J. drove home to his girlfriend after an. thing, because up until Andrew was murdered, I was a Pollyanna. Our 100 journalists strive to inform and improve our East Coast communities by delivering impartial, high-impact, local journalism that provokes thought and action. I'm just looking for somebody to hang out with and have fun here in school.' (Youll never guess who showed up on my doorstep, one of Bagbys friends recalls him saying. It also recently won Best Documentary at the Orlando Film Festival and the Audience Award at the St. Louis International Film Festival. Was it a tight bond? would be the difference if one person weren't alive? us around. The news and opinions youll love for only $10 for 1 year. MORRISON: Coming up, a knock at the door, and then the news. We had negotiated a one-hour-a-week visitation in family court. GARDNER: (Audio recording) Is this Dr. Turner? And I don't know, I just lay on top of her and we, MORRISON: T.J. opened the door to police, too, and heard the. ), DEAR ZACHARY 10TH ANNIVERSARY HD REMASTERED EDITIONNOW AVAILABLE ON BLU-RAY, DVD, and DIGITAL, For the film's 10th anniversary, Kurt Kuenne remastered "Dear Zachary", its epilogue, and its bonus features for HD, converting the original standard definition elements to HD shot-by-shot, while remixing the film in 5.1 surround, so that it now looks and sounds as originally intended on today's platforms. Nobody drives 16 hours after you've just broken up with them.' Mr. BAGBY: (Talking in group) This is about making public exactly what, MORRISON: The Bagbys' public outrage had some results. MORRISON: It was August 2003, the wee hours of the morning by the ocean. We were kind of like, `Well, we're not the best ones to be taking care of a child.' In the early years, that included David writing a book, Dance With the Devil, about his sons and grandsons murders, and Kuennes documentary. (David and Kate; photo of Andrew by tape being put into recording device; Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) Are you babysitting? It was made to tell a story and to capture forever the life of one man and the many people he touched. Yeah, I mean, I can watch that for sure. Kate and David Bagby traveled to Ottawa last week to speak as witnesses for the bill before the House's Standing Committee on Justice & Human Rights. would now have to be something else, a visual letter to Andrew's baby. He said, `Well, it's 4:30 now. Shirley. I can say it like that because even without a trial, the evidence was so damning we might as well have been next to her when she carried out the crime. The Hornet was just back from patrolling . David Bagby will be signing copies of Dance with the Devil on Sunday, January 20th, from 3-4 P.M. at Dolly's Bookstore, 510 Main Street, Park City, Utah. This film will be one of the best you're likely to see this year." I mean, the best man is really the groom. David R. Bagby Born: July 2, 1957 in Joliet, IL Died: January 5, 2022 in Statesville, NC David R. Bagby, 64 of Statesville, NC and formerly of Streator passed away Wednesday (January 5,. That one comes back a lot. Its heartbreaking, said Kate, who recalls last seeing Zachary the evening before he was killed. CONTRIBUTED BY DAVID AND KATE BAGBY Sixteen years have passed but for the Bagbys the story of the deaths of their only son and grandson resurfaces all the time. Highlights from the week in culture, every Saturday. The victims choices, preferences, actions, and relationships are either boiled down to a heap of clues and red herrings, or offered as a backdrop in a spirit of dutiful empathy before getting down to the business at hand. Information on who and where to write can be found on the "Support Bail Reform" page. -Managed leading Egyptian companies' accounts with the firm, including in the oil and gas, financial, consumer goods, real estate and automotive sectors. Kuenne began making Dear Zachary before Turner revealed her pregnancy. GARDNER: (Audio recording) Yes, ma'am, I am. The only thing about his life that didn't make sense to some friends and family was his relationship with that doctor from Newfoundland, the one he'd started dating when going to medical school there. He was in, Mr. SHEARS: I would cook supper sometimes when she wasn't around. You can, just--there's nothing. I got to put on the record the fact that I would like a much stronger bill, said David. Andrew assured his filmmaker friend Kurt that the 40-year-old was a passing fancy. Meeting her at 6. Then, in August 2003, Shirley killed herself and the one-year-old Zachary by jumping into the Atlantic Ocean. The strange allure of Robert Durst and The Jinx.. Andrew came to St. John's. -, "A 10 out of 10. substance to it. Kate answered the phone, and she couldn't get off the phone for an hour. But how? He said, `What do you mean?' You know? I just want to get through medical school.'. Dear Zachary has been announced as the first film to launch the newly formed MSNBC Films division of MSNBC. We did have him for a little while, she said. But a few weeks later, she showed up in Pennsylvania, unexpected, for the wedding of one of his friends. Mr. KUENNE: I think he was a little scared of me when I first came up. The legal system helped her kill Zachary. "Kurt Kuenne has crafted a documentary that began as a legacy of a friend in the form of a letter to that friend's child, and that is powerful enough to endure as legend. I cannot stress this enough: this movie frightened and disturbed me more than any horror film I've ever seen in my life. You know what, when Andrew didn't show up at 7:30, I knew something was very wrong. If you were to dream up the perfect set of parents, it would be Kate and David Bagby. Well, I was hurt in an, accident. You dont get over it. Except this story is worse. MORRISON: She kept trying to get between you and the baby. I had a husband I loved. Cpl. The documentary was originally released in 2008. He had returned to the US and had discovered a passion for family practice, where his love for people--and theirs for him--seemed as natural, as comfortable as the quiet town in Pennsylvania in which he'd chosen to live. MORRISON: Despite it all, the Bagbys were thrilled to be living, with Zachary. Do you understand? Click here for ticket information! My TV-consumption habits for the past several months have been awash in murder, and Netflix knows itwhich is how, fresh from binge-watching Making a Murderer and hungry for more, I recently came across Dear Zachary: A Letter to a Son About His Father. This odd documentarywhich deals with the death of a young physician named Andrew Bagby, who was a childhood friend of the films director, Kurt Kuennemade a small splash when it was first released, in 2008, but its worth revisiting now, in the midst of the recent bonanza of true-crime hits. And now it's just. IMDbPro Starmeter. MORRISON: But Andrew did agree to meet Shirley in a nearby park. If a suitable candidate is not identified, the award will not be given for that year. The good life started in earnest when Kate first laid eyes on Petty Officer David Bagby, who was serving on the USS Hornet, docked in Long Beach in 1967. And that's when it all hit the fan, I guess. 1 suspect was his estranged girlfriend, Shirley Turner, also a medical doctor, who was raised in western Newfoundland and was then practicing in Iowa. You dont leave it behind. did. Purchase the album on: Amazon (Physical CD) iTunes Amazon MP3, DAVID BAGBY'S "DANCE WITH THE DEVIL" RETURNS TO PAPERBACK AND E-BOOK, After four years of being out of print, David Bagby's book "Dance with the Devil" (Andrew Bagby's father's powerful memoir of the events depicted in "Dear Zachary") is finally available in paperback and e-book. Which is to say, the woman who killed Dr. Andrew Bagby is pregnant with Dr. Andrew Bagbys baby. On Monday, March 22, 2010, the House of Commons in Ottawa unanimously passed Bill C-464 - An Act to Amend the Criminal Code (justification for detention in custody). To revisit this article, select My Account, thenView saved stories, To revisit this article, visit My Profile, then View saved stories. We thought of him as a hostage, said David. Dear Zachary recently won the Audience Award at the Sidewalk Moving Picture Festival in Birmingham, Alabama! Laudable ambition, difficult to achieve. Information on who and where to write can be found by going to the "Support Bail Reform" page. October 22, 2009: to the house and found a card from a police officer that we knew. Senior Writer and Project Manager. The bill, if passed into law later this year, would justify detention in custody for those accused of a serious crime who are a potential danger to their own children under the age of 18. Dr. Andrew Bagby was killed on November 5, 2001, by an older woman named Shirley Jane Turner, who he had dated at a low point in his life. MORRISON: Police got Shirley Turner on the phone back in Iowa. That gave her a chance to do something useful for some people who needed it, said David. It's great. Because this is where you need it. KATE: (Zachary hugging Kate) This is your Uncle Kurt. MORRISON: Andrew's best friend, filmmaker Kurt Kuenne, suddenly, just knew what he had begun as a small film to memorialize his old friend. Its not the sort of true crime that leaves you wanting more. Dear Zachary was the most honored film at Cinequest 18 in San Jose, receiving sustained standing ovations from packed houses at all 3 screenings and winning 2 awards - a Special Jury Award for Documentary Feature and the Audience Award. MORRISON: Was it reasonable for the court to trust her? They recorded them. While that change felt good, David wanted more. will not hurt Zachary, period. GARDNER: (Audio recording) I understand that. I can understand that. children, who had recently been in a bad car accident. And in that way this tragedy remains hers and hers alone. Kate & David Bagby will now be called as witnesses before the committee, the bill will be revised and strengthened, and eventually brought back into the House and Senate for a vote. GARDNER: (Audio recording) Would you be willing to turn the gun into your local police department so they could get it to us to let us look at it? Mr. BAGBY: She told the court she was afraid we would harm the baby. MORRISON: You're in turmoil at that point. Cpl. We couldn't let the authorities who let this happen get away with it. Click HERE for ticket information. You will laugh, you will smile, you will cry, and you might even want to stand up and shout at the screen. Mr. BAGBY: By this time we're pretty damn sure she's complete. 1 Photo. I dont understand how that can be ignored.. However awkward Shirley Turner made it, they were sweet, cooperative. was that they'd have to accept her daily phone calls. This documentary starts out like a love letter. get in there, if that's what she demanded. The private member's bill was introduced by MP Scott Andrews of Newfoundland last fall after he saw "Dear Zachary" at a March 2009 screening in Ottawa and decided to do something about what he saw. Purchase the book here: Amazon USA | Amazon Canada, To read more reviews, visit our Press Archive, ZACHARY'S BILL (BILL C-464) BECOMES LAW IN CANADA, (Click HERE to read a letter to viewers from David & Kate Bagby.). MORRISON: Life for Andrew Bagby was good. And I saw that night her malignancy. And then we'd do it through the lawyers. Published by Statesville Record & Landmark on. She turns to talking of her son and calls him Gods blessing. MORRISON: But then things changed. Mr. KUENNE: He liked playing bad guys a lot. in honor of his beloved friend Andrew, and then for Andrew's son, Zachary. Very, very serious. Mr. BAGBY: (Audio recording) Just got up. I had lovely family. Why don't you just take him?'. The album includes "Andrew", the 8 minute concert work Kurt wrote and recorded in Andrew's memory in 2002. January 28, 2008: It's great. Such choices make for a disorienting viewing experience, especially if youre accustomed to the conventions of slicker documentaries. Not too long ago? And thank God. Home video captured what looked like a. typical domestic scene, but beneath these happy images lies a darker truth. In the course of the next two yearsas Turners extradition process dragged on, as Bagbys parents moved from California to Newfoundland to fight for custody of the baby, and as the case eventually took an even more terrible turnthe film came to be about those events as well. This is where the foreshadowed bureaucracy comes back. One contains the remains of their son, Dr. Andrew Bagby. For this night they were a couple once again, dancing and drinking together. They should have been given custody of Zachary to begin with. KATE: So this man said to me, `Do you know that Shirley Turner's pregnant with your son's child? The first time we had contact with her was over the phone. It, (Photo of Shirley; Shirley, Zachary and David; photos of Shirley and Zachary). Why? Dr. ANDREW BAGBY: (Wedding videotape) Best man is a little bit of a poor title for these things. (Newspaper rack; photo of Shirley and Zachary), Mr. BAGBY: (Press conference) I am going to continue to scream long and loud, MORRISON: The Bagbys have continued a campaign for the overhaul, of the bail system. Simpson advised his friend to call the cops and to not under any circumstances meet Shirley Jane Turner alone. Shirley and Zachary, then 13 months old, had been staying with the couple. Blood red screen. Keith Morrison reports. Mr. BAGBY: I think it was a rage at the person who did this. Ad Choices. then one day I realized what it was. The amount of the award will be variable, but is expected to be in the range of $1,000. She was deranged. anything like that, would we take care of Zachary? Kind of panic sets in, I guess, and that's when it all hit the fan, I guess. don't have these meltdowns and emotional scenes. His medical studies in Newfoundland were complete. Kuenne, a childhood friend of Andrews, started out to make the movie as a tribute to Andrew, but it kept taking on new meanings, first with Zacharys birth and then his death. -, "**** (Four stars). of a woman and a baby on the beach, and I lost it again. This is not the worst instance in this story of someone seeing something bad coming but not being able to stop it. But I used to look at her hand and think, it. (Kate and Zachary; judge in court; Shirley being escorted from court), Mr. KUENNE: I don't know. But something kept me going, and. MORRISON: Zachary Andrew Turner, the son of murder victim Andrew, Bagby and his accused killer Shirley Turner, was born on July 18th 2002, eight, months after the young doctor's murder. It comes down to probable cause, the right to bail and the presumption of innocence. June 2, 2015 - June 2020. KATE: I thought, `Well, he's got to get out of this.'. After the shooting, according to Kate, Turner called her claiming she was trying to reach Andrew. Sometimes, if you are paying attentionclose attentionyou can see it coming, even if only barely. Newfoundlanders tend to trust each other, perhaps it's because, generally, With a skilled lawyer on hand to do Shirley Turner's bidding, the. (David; Kate and Zachary; Shirley and Zachary). I said, `Find her, and I think you'll find who did this.'. They were somewhat successful with the passing of Bill C-464 in December 2010 with the added clause that bail could be denied if it was deemed necessary for the protection of anyone under the age of 18. Zachary's life, even talking to her eldest son and his girlfriend about it. TO ME ITS REAL LIFE. Dear Zachary avoids the first pitfall by directly confronting the second. Here the grandparents are making nice with the woman they believe killed their, son. You will hurt and this film will sit with you for days, weeks, months. The bill has added an amendment to Canada's criminal code giving courts the right to refuse bail to someone charged with a serious crime who is deemed a potential danger to children under the age of 18. MORRISON: When T.J. heard about Andrew's murder Mr. SHEARS: I just figure, `OK, well, he was in America. Dear Zachary: A Letter to a Son About His Father sounds like the kind of movie I would never want to see, which is why it took me so long to actually see it. MORRISON: It was November 2001 when Dr. Andrew Bagby, 28 years old, was found in hospital scrubs lying facedown in the state park in Derry Township, Pennsylvania. And we came back. Except, OK, sometimes not. I was just gone. And she followed Andrew to St. John's.. Zachary, how's our baby today? June 25, 2008: to live with his father in a tiny coastal village hundreds of miles away. 7:30 I'll be at your house.'. Mr. BAGBY: Oh, this ranks right up there. MORRISON: And go she did, back to Newfoundland, Canada. MORRISON: You didn't seriously think of--I mean, you talk about this plan Mr. BAGBY: Absolutely. with a supervisor, and we had to be searched. Shirley, held his birthday party at McDonald's. She landed a residency at a hospital in Iowa, several states away but still close enough to allow occasional weekends with Andrew in Pennsylvania. But their efforts to. A few weeks after, Zachary's birthday party, the Bagbys and Shirley took the toddler swimming, an, activity he usually enjoyed.
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